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	<title>Comments on: Is GW skeptism just an excuse not to take action on environmental issues?</title>
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		<title>By: byderule</title>
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		<dc:creator>byderule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There appear to be a strong trend to absolve humanity from all blame of any damages done to the planets environments  or that our Natural resources are in any way threatened.

If only it was just about preparing the ground for in action and not having to change.

I also fear it is about being able to continue and accelerate ,the pillaging of our Natural resources .And unscrupulous methods for turning a profit  at the cost of the Environment.

Models for sustainable living have been with us for thousands of years already.
And the list you mention is not beyond human capability 

People that sell are in control and humanity is a slave to their products ,creating the market and production with their demand ,

Hard to figure out who comes first 
who is really in charge or to blame 
and like any addict must know in the end its the addict who must change 

it take a lot of will power to disengage from all this 
Skeptics lack the will power that is all&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There appear to be a strong trend to absolve humanity from all blame of any damages done to the planets environments  or that our Natural resources are in any way threatened.</p>
<p>If only it was just about preparing the ground for in action and not having to change.</p>
<p>I also fear it is about being able to continue and accelerate ,the pillaging of our Natural resources .And unscrupulous methods for turning a profit  at the cost of the Environment.</p>
<p>Models for sustainable living have been with us for thousands of years already.<br />
And the list you mention is not beyond human capability </p>
<p>People that sell are in control and humanity is a slave to their products ,creating the market and production with their demand ,</p>
<p>Hard to figure out who comes first<br />
who is really in charge or to blame<br />
and like any addict must know in the end its the addict who must change </p>
<p>it take a lot of will power to disengage from all this<br />
Skeptics lack the will power that is all<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: fygh77</title>
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		<dc:creator>fygh77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, GW skepticism is created and fueled by the big oil companies such as ExxonMobil. They have spent a lot of money to create campaigns to confuse the public about facts of GW. 

If you do some research, you will discover that the top scientists who speaks against taking actions on GW are on the payroll of the oil companies one time or another. Best of all, these scientists in most cases are not even trained in the field of climate science. Wild huh?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, GW skepticism is created and fueled by the big oil companies such as ExxonMobil. They have spent a lot of money to create campaigns to confuse the public about facts of GW. </p>
<p>If you do some research, you will discover that the top scientists who speaks against taking actions on GW are on the payroll of the oil companies one time or another. Best of all, these scientists in most cases are not even trained in the field of climate science. Wild huh?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: dana1981</title>
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		<dc:creator>dana1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You'll also often hear global warming skeptics say &#34;I'm not going to do anything until Al Gore does&#34;.  I don't see why Al Gore's personal actions should have any impact on how we live our lives.  To focus on somebody else's behavior while refusing to change your own is simply a cop-out.

We should all be doing the sustainable things you list.  They would benefit us in more ways than just reducing our global warming impact.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll also often hear global warming skeptics say &quot;I&#8217;m not going to do anything until Al Gore does&quot;.  I don&#8217;t see why Al Gore&#8217;s personal actions should have any impact on how we live our lives.  To focus on somebody else&#8217;s behavior while refusing to change your own is simply a cop-out.</p>
<p>We should all be doing the sustainable things you list.  They would benefit us in more ways than just reducing our global warming impact.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Robert A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to reducing CO2 emissions, which has quite large implications on our way of life, yes, I believe that global warming scepticism is very convenient.  We all, if we can, look for reasons not to face unpleasant facts.  Unfortunately examination of the extensive work done by reputable science indicates that man made global warming is occurring.  A far as other pollution is concerned global warming sceptics may well be as concerned as anybody else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to reducing CO2 emissions, which has quite large implications on our way of life, yes, I believe that global warming scepticism is very convenient.  We all, if we can, look for reasons not to face unpleasant facts.  Unfortunately examination of the extensive work done by reputable science indicates that man made global warming is occurring.  A far as other pollution is concerned global warming sceptics may well be as concerned as anybody else.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Jello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Jello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are taking action to reduce pollution.  This is a multi-billion dollar business.  Don't let the environmentalist fool you to believe no one is doing anything.

The air and water are much cleaner today than they were in the 1950's &#38; 60's.

To assume no one is doing anything is just a lie like global warming.  The Sun is the source of all heat on Earth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are taking action to reduce pollution.  This is a multi-billion dollar business.  Don&#8217;t let the environmentalist fool you to believe no one is doing anything.</p>
<p>The air and water are much cleaner today than they were in the 1950&#8217;s &amp; 60&#8217;s.</p>
<p>To assume no one is doing anything is just a lie like global warming.  The Sun is the source of all heat on Earth.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is, people are selfish. They don't want to change their patterns of consumption, thus they deny there is a problem. 

(After reading your question, I did understand that GW means Global Warming, but I think one poster thought you meant George W. Bush the Oil Companies' best buddy - you probably want to spell it out to avoid misunderstanding) ;)

For me, I am not a skeptic, I totally understand the role of humans in f***ing up the balance of the planet. I feel guilty for driving a car and using electricity.  Sad but true.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, people are selfish. They don&#8217;t want to change their patterns of consumption, thus they deny there is a problem. </p>
<p>(After reading your question, I did understand that GW means Global Warming, but I think one poster thought you meant George W. Bush the Oil Companies&#8217; best buddy - you probably want to spell it out to avoid misunderstanding) <img src='http://okavangochallenge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For me, I am not a skeptic, I totally understand the role of humans in f***ing up the balance of the planet. I feel guilty for driving a car and using electricity.  Sad but true.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: valcan</title>
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		<dc:creator>valcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i believe that it is an excuse... we are leaving a terrible legacy for the next 10-15 generations&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i believe that it is an excuse&#8230; we are leaving a terrible legacy for the next 10-15 generations<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: catseyenebula</title>
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		<dc:creator>catseyenebula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times do you have to ask the same question?

Just because we're not in lock-step with the Church of Global Warming doesn't mean we don't care about the environment.

You can deny it's a natural cycle, that's up to you.  Global warming may be happening, but there's no proof it's caused by any of the things you list.

By your rules, Al Gore must not care about the environment or he wouldn't use 25 times more energy than the rest of us. Yet he flies around in private jets demanding that the rest of us use less energy.

How about you &#38; Al Gore reduce your usage and leave us alone.  We care about the environment.  You just want to appear to care because it makes you feel good about yourself.  That's the real hypocrisy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times do you have to ask the same question?</p>
<p>Just because we&#8217;re not in lock-step with the Church of Global Warming doesn&#8217;t mean we don&#8217;t care about the environment.</p>
<p>You can deny it&#8217;s a natural cycle, that&#8217;s up to you.  Global warming may be happening, but there&#8217;s no proof it&#8217;s caused by any of the things you list.</p>
<p>By your rules, Al Gore must not care about the environment or he wouldn&#8217;t use 25 times more energy than the rest of us. Yet he flies around in private jets demanding that the rest of us use less energy.</p>
<p>How about you &amp; Al Gore reduce your usage and leave us alone.  We care about the environment.  You just want to appear to care because it makes you feel good about yourself.  That&#8217;s the real hypocrisy.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Mark F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The President is a fool, and part of the problem is the want or perceived need for excessive products, brought on by society, and that makes promoting sustainability more difficult.
I don't see his skepticism as an excuse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The President is a fool, and part of the problem is the want or perceived need for excessive products, brought on by society, and that makes promoting sustainability more difficult.<br />
I don&#8217;t see his skepticism as an excuse.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: kevin s</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The planets cycle of heating and cooling has been well studied and is a fact.
I'm for a lot of the things you are talking about to reduce waste and other pollution. ( no problem with that ).
I am very skeptical at the agenda of the left using GW to gain control of things in order to push socialism and as an excuse to raise taxes though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The planets cycle of heating and cooling has been well studied and is a fact.<br />
I&#8217;m for a lot of the things you are talking about to reduce waste and other pollution. ( no problem with that ).<br />
I am very skeptical at the agenda of the left using GW to gain control of things in order to push socialism and as an excuse to raise taxes though.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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